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so, again, vice president biden heading to the hill. just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could wind up paying about $2,000 more in their taxes. and if we went over the cliff and stayed over the cliff for a significant amount of time, the economy could eventually begin to dip back into recession. and that is really the big concern here. you've heard president obama talk about those concerns when he has held some of these public campaign events. he held one today to pressure congress to act. he has talked about the fact that this is a really about americans and the economy and preventing the economic recovery from being harmed. milissa? >> kr
so, again, vice president biden heading to the hill. just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could...
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vice president biden -- i know who that is. that is senator mcconnell's spokesperson up there, don stewart who is regaling reporters with some kind of details about behind the scenes. stu is telling the reporters from the republican point of view. ed, what about from the white house point of view you about how this deal came to be and what it looks like? >> as mike laid out he s exactly right that vice president biden, of course, played a pivotal role. known as the mcconnell whisperer as somebody who when you go back to the debt ceiling debate about a year and a half ago he unsticked that when it was stopped up. he was brought in sort of as the closer again yesterday to try to move this along. it is not a completely done deal yet. as you noted this sequester came about all because the cuts were supposed to be so onerous that lawmakers in both parties would never let them go through and yet they he went right up to the edge here. this is important this s just as mike said a two month buydown. shut out the cuts for two months. co
vice president biden -- i know who that is. that is senator mcconnell's spokesperson up there, don stewart who is regaling reporters with some kind of details about behind the scenes. stu is telling the reporters from the republican point of view. ed, what about from the white house point of view you about how this deal came to be and what it looks like? >> as mike laid out he s exactly right that vice president biden, of course, played a pivotal role. known as the mcconnell whisperer as...
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you have worked with vice president biden. as you know, he's been called on by mitch mcconnell to help with these last-minute talks. what do you think his role is now with so little time left? >> well, the vice president goes way back with senator mcconnell, and i've been in the room when they have talked, and it doesn't sound like two partisans separated by deep ideology. it sounds like guys who know how to bang out a deal. that said, if that were up to them perhaps they could get somewhere, but there are so many other forces swirling around this right now. i'm kind of in the same camp as kristen and the other political analysts we just heard from. if we are starting to hear things getting further apart rather than closer apart at this late date, i don't know that a decades old friendship between a couple of senators -- former senator and current one are going to make that much difference at this point. >> paul, let me play for you what senator lindsey graham said this morning on "fox news sunday" about the chances of a small
you have worked with vice president biden. as you know, he's been called on by mitch mcconnell to help with these last-minute talks. what do you think his role is now with so little time left? >> well, the vice president goes way back with senator mcconnell, and i've been in the room when they have talked, and it doesn't sound like two partisans separated by deep ideology. it sounds like guys who know how to bang out a deal. that said, if that were up to them perhaps they could get...
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we reported that joe biden, the environment, is in the building. our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to come through he and meet with all of the senate democrats for the meeting you were talking about with the senator. sounds as though they're doing a little talking about -- a little bit of a game plan about how they're going to present this to the caucus, and obviously, that's a very delicate issue for reasons we have been talking about. the democratic caucus, many of them are not happy. in fact, i have to tell you i was told by one democratic senator when they put up on a screen, they put up yesterday in a meeting that democrats were having, they put up almost
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>> you heard vice president biden. the white house has put forth a deal and gotten some republicans is in leadership so go along with this. is a big step. we're going to see the republican party rear its ugly head and see how rogue they want to be in going against the majority of americans. very clear. you look at every poll out there protect social security, medicare, medicaid. in this round, that's exactly what the white house did. republicans want to go against that, they have to deal with it in 2014. they want the wealthiest americans to pay for. that's what will happen in this deal. republicans will have to deal with that down the road this will bring more money into the treasury and won't hurt the middle class. the middle class has been protected in this deal and that's exactly what the president said he would do all along. and this is a monumental move by the republicans if they vote for this, there will only be two republicans that ever voted for a tax increase. for the president to keep this, is it's dig deal.
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that is exactly what vice president biden is hearing right now. the key question is how deep and how broad that is. it will be interesting to see whether they come out of this meeting thinking that they need to rewrite a couple of points in the bill which would put off any deal tonight yet again. if they have to go back to republicans because of what they are hearing in the room that is bad news fora deal and you suspect the longer this goes on the more likely that is what is being discussed. >> bret: i agree with you. this is actually a long meeting at 10:40 when you are supposed to potentially move legislation to the senate floor tonight to take action potentially for the house to act tomorrow. stephen dinal with the washington times. thank you very much. i'm getting a lot of tweets from people who just are tired of fiscal cliff coverage. they just want to see megyn kelly and bill in times square dancing gangnam style or whatever they are doing. >> happy new year. >> take me out of fiscal cliff, washington. >> see yew in a minute, bret. happy ne
that is exactly what vice president biden is hearing right now. the key question is how deep and how broad that is. it will be interesting to see whether they come out of this meeting thinking that they need to rewrite a couple of points in the bill which would put off any deal tonight yet again. if they have to go back to republicans because of what they are hearing in the room that is bad news fora deal and you suspect the longer this goes on the more likely that is what is being discussed....
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in attendance will be vice president joe biden. is it going to be difficult to sell your party on this deal? >> well, i think that we're going to come together in about an hour as a democratic caucus and hear the vice president out. there are a lot of good things in this bill that make sense and that i think it will ultimately earn the overwhelming majority of house democratic votes. we made sure that as we committed throughout this last campaign that we would not allow taxes to increase on 98% of americans that's in this deal. we made sure that we pushed off a really significant slashing of defense spending as well as domestic spending and we'll make sure going forward that whatever deal we do reach on those spending cuts is balanced when it comes to both revenue and spending cuts. and that's the overall -- overriding commitment here is we have a balanced plan in front of us and we'll need to -- any further deals made in the future continue to have a balanced plan. >> there are some in your party who don't like this plan. senator
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called in a senate colleague vice president joe biden. >> willing to work with whoev er can help. it remain as possible sticking point. appears to be a willingness and interest or the courage to close the deal. >> top on the republican side sound hopeful because they believe vice president biden can cut a deal but it may not be tonight. >> president obama putting pressure on lawmakers to reach a deal. mr. obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the
called in a senate colleague vice president joe biden. >> willing to work with whoev er can help. it remain as possible sticking point. appears to be a willingness and interest or the courage to close the deal. >> top on the republican side sound hopeful because they believe vice president biden can cut a deal but it may not be tonight. >> president obama putting pressure on lawmakers to reach a deal. mr. obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he...
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mcconnell and joe biden. so there's an indication of how things are going. >> you wrote that democrats are hesitant to put a deal on the senate floor with no republican backing, because it just offers them a chance to score political points when public opinion does seem to be favoring the democrats. democrats don't have an incentive to waste a show of support for something that can't pass, right? >> that's exactly where democrats are. they feel like they want to get a deal with republican backing, if they can. but remember on friday, the president kind of put republicans in a box. he said either cut a deal in the senate and push it through, or i'm going to ask harry reid to put my scaled back plan on the senate floor. and remember that scaled back plan has tax increases for everybody who makes over $250,000, which republicans don't love at all. i'll have harry reid put that on the floor and you'll have to block it. and you will have to then take responsibility for not pushing it through. so republicans are a
mcconnell and joe biden. so there's an indication of how things are going. >> you wrote that democrats are hesitant to put a deal on the senate floor with no republican backing, because it just offers them a chance to score political points when public opinion does seem to be favoring the democrats. democrats don't have an incentive to waste a show of support for something that can't pass, right? >> that's exactly where democrats are. they feel like they want to get a deal with...
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so he reached out to vice president biden. biden engaged. and what looked like a stalemate yesterday really has begun to move forward overnight, the two on the phone late into the evening until midnight i am told working out the details of a compromise. their staffers on the phone into the early morning hours. folks here at the white house up quite late as well. so it looks like some type of compromise is starting to form that would include increasing taxes on those making $450,000 or less. remember president obama wanted that threshold at 250,000. house speaker john boehner wanted it much higher at about a million dollars. this is somewhere in between. also, an extension of the unemployment insurance benefits. they're still hashing out some of the final details but it does appear as though the vice president was key in helping these negotiations to move forward. >> the negotiations go on there, kristen, we are watching the senate floor as they discuss the very details of that and debate it. keith, to you on this. political pointing out, bid
so he reached out to vice president biden. biden engaged. and what looked like a stalemate yesterday really has begun to move forward overnight, the two on the phone late into the evening until midnight i am told working out the details of a compromise. their staffers on the phone into the early morning hours. folks here at the white house up quite late as well. so it looks like some type of compromise is starting to form that would include increasing taxes on those making $450,000 or less....
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>> well, joe biden and mitch mcconnell are older school politicians. they remember a time when compromise was how you close deals like this. and there are a lot of, i guess, mostly younger members up there who don't remember that time. they view their job is to go to washington and create conflict and have grid lock. that doesn't mean that their caucuses will certainly be with them. that is no surprise to me that vice president joe biden is talking with them. it is not a slam dunk, i suspect it will, especially if it passes the senate with a significantly bipartisan vote. you have some real deal makers. >> what do you think that this really means in your opinion, to the average american taxpayer? whether, you know, with the threat we may go over the cliff, and now we may really not. what difference did this really, really mean and if you could put it in plain words for us who are not economists, just explain what it means for all of us? >> well, first of all it means that if you're someone who is a beneficiary of long-term unemployment benefits, you're
>> well, joe biden and mitch mcconnell are older school politicians. they remember a time when compromise was how you close deals like this. and there are a lot of, i guess, mostly younger members up there who don't remember that time. they view their job is to go to washington and create conflict and have grid lock. that doesn't mean that their caucuses will certainly be with them. that is no surprise to me that vice president joe biden is talking with them. it is not a slam dunk, i...
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joe biden put that boy in his place. it reminded me of kathy bates. >> the part where she hits it car. >> he just spanked the guy. it was fantastic. the jack kennedy line was epic. it was my favorite line of the debate. >> i went into the debates cynical. biden is not going to say anything to paul ryan. he said that line and i was like oh! he said it! >> part of the reason this was happening is because we were so sad on the left after the first one. we just have to take a look at president obama during that first debate. it was -- it was a sad moment. the reason we were so excited about biden, what was going on there? >> i'm glad we had the sad drama. it sound tracked to 2012. i feel like biden is like a fun dad but then was able in the debate to get away with being angry dad. he's like fun, laughing, i'm kind of condescending to this guy and then with the jack kennedy line, like seriously, don't mess around. >> that's the thing. joe biden is your crazy uncle joe. it's not a joke. you go to thanksgiving dinner and mentio
joe biden put that boy in his place. it reminded me of kathy bates. >> the part where she hits it car. >> he just spanked the guy. it was fantastic. the jack kennedy line was epic. it was my favorite line of the debate. >> i went into the debates cynical. biden is not going to say anything to paul ryan. he said that line and i was like oh! he said it! >> part of the reason this was happening is because we were so sad on the left after the first one. we just have to take...
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that's vice president joe biden. mcconnell and biden reportedly spoke several times by phone throughout the night after talks with harry reid came to a halt. welcome back, everyone, to "morning joe." that's the latest. ed rendell and jeffrey sachs all with us along with sam stein and michael steele in washington. joining us also in washington, senior national correspondent for "bloomberg businessweek," joshua green. and joshua, before we go on to what led to this doomsday scenario that we're facing right now, which was all set up by lawmakers in washington, talk to me about what businesses are looking for and wall street is looking for. there will be reaction. there's always this discussion about the need for certainty. at best, we're going to get some sort of small deal that puts everything off, which makes this whole deadline make no sense. are businesses going to respond well to that? >> if we get a deal, yes. i mean, wall street all along has been looking to avert the fiscal cliff. and frankly, i don't think ceos
that's vice president joe biden. mcconnell and biden reportedly spoke several times by phone throughout the night after talks with harry reid came to a halt. welcome back, everyone, to "morning joe." that's the latest. ed rendell and jeffrey sachs all with us along with sam stein and michael steele in washington. joining us also in washington, senior national correspondent for "bloomberg businessweek," joshua green. and joshua, before we go on to what led to this doomsday...
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yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm not sure that we're going to see a kumbaya situation. but as i say, there are some advantages for republicans in mak
yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill,...
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even vice president biden might come over if they're close to a deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the senate tonight. correct me if i'm wrong, it almost sounds hopeful there. >> is a sense it's worth staying here and they're looking at these details. at the same time people are tired there are some frustrations there is a sense they could have gotten this done sooner. you hear that plenty. but those who have been at the table and looking at this do see compromise that has happened on both sides. you have republicans and democrats who made big compromises on taxes. the president moving up from his $250,000 threshold to 400 and 450 for individuals and couples. and republicans who wanted to see no tax increases for any level did agree, at least at this stage, that they would support tax increases. i say at this stage because this agreement should it happen then has to be voted on of course by the full senate a
even vice president biden might come over if they're close to a deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the senate tonight. correct me if i'm wrong, it almost sounds hopeful there. >> is a sense it's worth staying here and they're looking at these details. at the same time people are tired there are some frustrations there is a sense they...
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joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i particular affection, they know each other and they know what makes the other tick. they know what the other incentives are. the personal relationships can matter. there's no question. i think it will give sort of credibility to joe biden's standing, and they will show the value of that kind of institutional knowledge and seniority. >> they say it's the deal and it's the program meter is 450,000 with an extension of the patch in amt and extension of unemployment benefits and all these sorts of things. are both sides able even if they're not r
joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i...
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the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert who is on the hill and where things stand. first, let's listen into the start of this session. >> the speakers are in washington d.c., january 1, 2013. i hereby hereby appoint the honorable robert j. dole to act as speaker in temporary on this day, signed john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. >> the prayer will be offered by our chaplain father conroy. >> let us pray. eternal god, we give you thanks for giving us another day, a new year. the political struggles of the past year have revealed the divisions that exist in our nation. there are many american citizens who are angry,
the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert...
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was -- joe vice president joe biden was briefing. here is joe biden on expectations a moment ago. >> two things you shouldn't do, shouldn't predict how the senate will vote, and number two, shouldn't predict how the house will vote. i feel very, very good. i think we will get a good vote tonight. >> reporter: senate vote in a matter of moments. no idea what will happen. >> do you think this is the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning? >> reporter: absolutely. >> well said. thank you for watching. we are always on www.wusa9.com. letterman is next. have a great night and a very happy new years.
was -- joe vice president joe biden was briefing. here is joe biden on expectations a moment ago. >> two things you shouldn't do, shouldn't predict how the senate will vote, and number two, shouldn't predict how the house will vote. i feel very, very good. i think we will get a good vote tonight. >> reporter: senate vote in a matter of moments. no idea what will happen. >> do you think this is the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning? >> reporter: absolutely....
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though joe biden hear you out because i'm not sure i'm a gentleman look at them look at the moves on him you know i don't know i don't know if he's a if he's a this guy but he you know he looks like a president vice presidential guy joe biden and whatever the case joe biden he's known for his big about big mouth he's known for his even bigger teeth when obama recently passed his major health care act at the podium biden gave him a hug and as he hugged him he said in a negative way he said this is a big deal guys run run the grab so we can hear what he had to say mr joe biden vice president. the president the united states of america barack obama. thank you everybody. not only not only was heard by barack obama but it was heard by everyone on stage even people started tweeting about it saying that you are mr joe biden you're absolutely right in the you know that guy's story or is it just me or has a bronco obama in some way been involved in almost all of the open mikes whether he's talking to someone or being talked about or it's his vice president he's you know involved in a lot of a
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vice president biden will probably come to capitol hill tonight. they don't like the rate ares and there is still some hesitation. the big story tonight is that republicans are going to unit behind mcconnell. going to leave it there. thank you gentlemen. we are going to go back to washington and get an update on this developing story. that comes later. don't forget folks free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity. it means limited government and limited government spending and rewarding success. i'm kudlow and the kudlow report will be right back. >> this new year's day kick off 2013 in style with the look at what made 2012 unforunforgettab. the new year's day marathon all day on cnbc. nderstand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. w
vice president biden will probably come to capitol hill tonight. they don't like the rate ares and there is still some hesitation. the big story tonight is that republicans are going to unit behind mcconnell. going to leave it there. thank you gentlemen. we are going to go back to washington and get an update on this developing story. that comes later. don't forget folks free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity. it means limited government and limited government spending and...
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i mean, in the end, it became mitch mcconnell and joe biden. the majority of lawmakers essentially cut out of the process, including, arguably, the speaker. so, how can things be done differently if you're going to do things like getting the debt ceiling taken care of, like figuring out the sequester? >> well, this was a unique situation because we did have the fiscal cliff and we had a lame duck congress. what i think we have to start trying to do is return to what's called around here regular order. there really is no such thing in this congress. but what that means is that the committees actually consider the bills. and the thing that is really the challenge for us is to get republicans and democrats to be working on these committees, talking about the different issues and trying to come up with some compromises. right now, it's just an all-or-nothing proposition, and the republicans have the majority in the house and it's their way or the highway. the senate filibuster is a big impediment. and in the old days that people speak about with so
i mean, in the end, it became mitch mcconnell and joe biden. the majority of lawmakers essentially cut out of the process, including, arguably, the speaker. so, how can things be done differently if you're going to do things like getting the debt ceiling taken care of, like figuring out the sequester? >> well, this was a unique situation because we did have the fiscal cliff and we had a lame duck congress. what i think we have to start trying to do is return to what's called around here...
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certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you already hear them expressing a great deal of dismay.
certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you...
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because it seemed like joe biden was very much in charge. well, the fact is, biden was actually very much an extension of him and it sort of makes sense when you think of the rhythm of how congress works. the president, of course, served in the senate. joe biden served in the senate for decades alongside mitch mcconnell. and it was really, i think, that relationship, and sort of his knowing the rhythm of congress. and also, frankly, the deadline that helped kind of push this along. >> brianna keilar in washington, thanks for being with us. we'll talk to you again real soon >> staying in the capital now with jonathan allen. senior congressional correspondent for politico. john, give us some sense of the word from the house this morning. because we're going to spend a lot of time telling all those folks who might have been doing something other than paying attention to what was going on with the fiscal cliff overnight what the details of the plans are. we wasting our breath? is this going to make it through the house? >> the message we're hear
because it seemed like joe biden was very much in charge. well, the fact is, biden was actually very much an extension of him and it sort of makes sense when you think of the rhythm of how congress works. the president, of course, served in the senate. joe biden served in the senate for decades alongside mitch mcconnell. and it was really, i think, that relationship, and sort of his knowing the rhythm of congress. and also, frankly, the deadline that helped kind of push this along. >>...
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vice president biden also here at the white house. he can of course be an incredibly important player in this entire process. president obama's strategy has to some extent been to wage a public campaign putting the pressure on congress to get something done during that exclusive interview earlier today you heard the president accuse republicans of being solely focused on protecting the taxes of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these developments quite closely. >> kristen welker, thank you. we will be checking back throughout the afternoon, as well. nchlts for mor
vice president biden also here at the white house. he can of course be an incredibly important player in this entire process. president obama's strategy has to some extent been to wage a public campaign putting the pressure on congress to get something done during that exclusive interview earlier today you heard the president accuse republicans of being solely focused on protecting the taxes of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those...
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tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the message is just sit tight, stay tuned and i think what we have to do, don, is find out tomorrow morning, whether there is any progress between senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden. there is definitely hope. there is not a lot of time. >> let me tell you this, lisa. when you see the workers there, and the crew that -- and those are the people who these negotiations are about. every day americans who work these types of jobs, who are every day americans and so there you go. i think that is absolutely tells the story. >> don, i want to -- >> go ahead. >> i want
tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the...
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biden made his way with the senate majority leader. there he is, making his way to a caucus meeting, where vice- president biden tried to sell the steel to his members, and he was able to get a majority of democrats to vote for this deal, all but three. the ap at this photo of the vice-president after that caucus meeting with all the rank-and- file. he came out and game -- and gave a thumbs-up after he was able to talk to the rank and file. there he is. even though the house was on a session, the washington times reports that the country technical felt that this will cut. there is still little bit of time. -- allen in fairfield, illinois, republican caller. all of let's get rid of congress, fire them, vote them out of office. host: why is that? caller: they are not doing them -- doing what we want them to. host: which is what? caller: to the deficit down, and do what we put them in there to do. host: how should that be done, alan? caller: i'm not sure about that. host: social security, medicare, medicaid? caller: they should be on the
biden made his way with the senate majority leader. there he is, making his way to a caucus meeting, where vice- president biden tried to sell the steel to his members, and he was able to get a majority of democrats to vote for this deal, all but three. the ap at this photo of the vice-president after that caucus meeting with all the rank-and- file. he came out and game -- and gave a thumbs-up after he was able to talk to the rank and file. there he is. even though the house was on a session,...
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the white house is very involved in this, particularly joe biden. dana saying if there is a deal, they're going to need joe biden to go over and talk to democrats there to sell this to them. there have been those who have been dissatisfied with the development of a deal as we have heard about it today. what's going on at the white house right now? >> well, i have reported that the vice president is set to go up there just as soon as the democrats hold or schedule a caucus, a meeting of the senate democrats to present the bill. and then the vice president will take their questions and answer any of their concerns. but ali, just hours before that ball is set to drop in new york city, there is still time for lawmakers to drop the ball here in washington, d.c. i have been waiting a long time to use that line. >> you may have several chances through the course of the evening to use it more. >> can i give you -- let me tell you something else. there is still -- the important thing for the white house right now is there's a lot of optimism here, optimism a
the white house is very involved in this, particularly joe biden. dana saying if there is a deal, they're going to need joe biden to go over and talk to democrats there to sell this to them. there have been those who have been dissatisfied with the development of a deal as we have heard about it today. what's going on at the white house right now? >> well, i have reported that the vice president is set to go up there just as soon as the democrats hold or schedule a caucus, a meeting of...
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senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still time left to reach an agreement. >> meanwhile west virginia democrat joe mansion introduced the calm act trying to soften the blow as the country goes off the fiscal cliff. it would maphase in tax hikes or the years and prioritize spending cuts. he says he's frustrated and tried to do something. >> it was crossing the wires it's more than frustration it sounds like desperation at this point as they are losing hope. the chained cpi the social security adjustment you were talking about basically changes the way they configure the cost of living and would make those benefits smaller checks. does it soun
senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still...
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vice president biden is in charge of that task force. they've been given a deadline of january to present ideas to the president. the president gives his state of the union address in early february. and then it's off to the races and trying to get something done. so the idea that the president isn't going to push hard on doing something about gun safety, gun control, however you want to talk about it i think is a little bit ludicrous. julian and james, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> happy new year. >> stay with us. much more ahead. >> many new year. >> happy new year. in this country we say happy new year. >> ha, ha, ha, ha! safety, gun control, however you in this country we say happy new safety, gun control, however you in this country we say happy new >>> stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. ♪ i heard somebody say ♪ burn, baby burn ♪ disco inferno ♪ burn, baby burn >>> fireworks and old friends, champagne toasts and resolutions. oh, and that dreaded fiscal cliff. here are today's "top lines." countdown to sk
vice president biden is in charge of that task force. they've been given a deadline of january to present ideas to the president. the president gives his state of the union address in early february. and then it's off to the races and trying to get something done. so the idea that the president isn't going to push hard on doing something about gun safety, gun control, however you want to talk about it i think is a little bit ludicrous. julian and james, thanks very much. >> thank you....
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vice president biden has worked very hard to come to a compromise. by definition, a compromise has elements in it that each party does not like. but by definition, it has things in it that each party should like. the speaker said that if the senate passed a bill he would put it on the floor for a vote. the leader has pointed out that we expect that to happen. we think that's the best interest of the american people. we hope that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle can reach compromise. our members are reviewing the specifics of the compromise that has been reached to determine whether they can support that compromise. i'm hopeful this congress will, as one of its last acts, act not only on this compromise, but i'm also very hopeful and would expect that we would provide the emergency assistance needed for the victims of sandy. one of the country's worst storms in history that damaged the northeast so badly. so, i'm hopeful we will be able to move on both of these issues and that we will have members on both sides who perhaps will not agree,
vice president biden has worked very hard to come to a compromise. by definition, a compromise has elements in it that each party does not like. but by definition, it has things in it that each party should like. the speaker said that if the senate passed a bill he would put it on the floor for a vote. the leader has pointed out that we expect that to happen. we think that's the best interest of the american people. we hope that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle can reach...
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mcconnell and joe biden are talking. when things between mcconnell and reid stopped working, mcconnell, highest ranked republican in the senate, reid the highest ranking democrat in the senate. we have to believe some work is being done somewhere. >> some of it is being done somewhere. talking to an aide to senator mcconnell, we understand that discussions between biden and mcconnell went into the night so this is something that they are working on, although certainly, yes, it's being left to the last minute and unclear if we'll avert the fiscal cliff. talk to snom senators, and they say we are going over the cliff. some way they think there will be a deal by tonight and a vote by tonight, but the fact is it's very iffy. here is what's not iffy. an incentive if we go over the cliff to get this done. because it is -- both sides have been preparing themselves for the blame game. it is in full swing now. president obama said, basically saying if we go over the cliff, he is really going to take aim at republicans more than h
mcconnell and joe biden are talking. when things between mcconnell and reid stopped working, mcconnell, highest ranked republican in the senate, reid the highest ranking democrat in the senate. we have to believe some work is being done somewhere. >> some of it is being done somewhere. talking to an aide to senator mcconnell, we understand that discussions between biden and mcconnell went into the night so this is something that they are working on, although certainly, yes, it's being...
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to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense where they are, if they're any further along, and then if there is a package, it would be revealed to each side, meaning the house and the senate, let members take a look at it, and gauge if they're ready to go and vote on it. it is the final day of the year tomorrow. and so the time could not be any shorter. and that's putting pressure on everyone involved. we just don't have a sense if there is optimism, but at least we're told they are still talking. chris? >> obviously, vice president biden has not been involved in these negotiations up until now. do we know why the whit
to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense...
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biden said: me. it's interesting, the senators, the democrats all got together late yesterday, and joe biden went in, and his pitch to the liberals, particularly liberal liberals was -- quote -- "this is joe biden, and i'm your buddy." he was saying this is the best deal you're going to get. you guys got to go for it, and a majority of the democrats did. >> the little smirks and all that, but the fact is he went in there superseding harry reid who wasn't getting anything done. at least something happened. people wanted to see some sort of action. they wanted to know their congressmen who went home for the break would actually do something. >> here's mitch mcconnell on how this thing went together. he doesn't like the way it happened either but it's still done. >> shouldn't have taken us this long to come to an agreement, and this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here. i know i can speak for my entire conference when i say we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone, but we all
biden said: me. it's interesting, the senators, the democrats all got together late yesterday, and joe biden went in, and his pitch to the liberals, particularly liberal liberals was -- quote -- "this is joe biden, and i'm your buddy." he was saying this is the best deal you're going to get. you guys got to go for it, and a majority of the democrats did. >> the little smirks and all that, but the fact is he went in there superseding harry reid who wasn't getting anything done....
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. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular love him. maybe you got a problem -- >> we're talking about his wife as a candidate. >> jill? >> why not? >> because she's shown no political ambition. she teaches at a community college and she has a fine career. >> okay. best political theater of 2012. pat? >> i hate to say it but i think the democratic convention in charlotte. it was a real bell winger of a convention, very entertaining. >> eleanor? >> i second that and i loved clint eastwood interviewing the empty chair. that was classic. >> you really thought he had it all together. >> e
. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular...
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on the democratic side, vice president biden, secretary of state, hillary clinton, bennett, jerry brown, elizabeth warren, and angus king who is an independent but will caucus with the democratics on the republican side. marco rubio, mike pence, jeb bush, and soon to be former senator from south carolina jim demint. joining me now, our end of the year gaggle, crystal lizza, perry bacon, stephanie cutter was the deputy campaign manager for obama's campaign, and madden was a senior adviser for romney's campaign. hello. happy new year, although we asked all of you to pick, i threw out my dozen and i asked you to pick two you were going to feedback. we're not going to do the 2016 conversation now, but we'll do it in a few minutes. who are the few who jumped out at you? >> i'm a little nierdy, so i picked michael bennet, the colorado senator, because he's the head of the committee which means he's tasked with trying to again keep a democratic senate majority, going to be difficult. you have 20 democratic seats up, only 10 republican seats up. >> and he wants to be senate majority leader some
on the democratic side, vice president biden, secretary of state, hillary clinton, bennett, jerry brown, elizabeth warren, and angus king who is an independent but will caucus with the democratics on the republican side. marco rubio, mike pence, jeb bush, and soon to be former senator from south carolina jim demint. joining me now, our end of the year gaggle, crystal lizza, perry bacon, stephanie cutter was the deputy campaign manager for obama's campaign, and madden was a senior adviser for...
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joe biden was on. >> joe biden, that's right. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he was awesome. >> go joe biden! >> jimmy: what's that. don't read my note. okay, you can see it. >> i love joe biden. yes, we were in d.c. shooting and we were so lucky to get the vice president and it was before the election so we were really hoping that they won. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that would have been awkward, yeah. >> it would be a little bit more of a sadder -- sadder scene if that wasn't the case. but he was so great. >> jimmy: here is you and your celebrity crushes. >> look at my face. it's so funny. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he was great. >> he was so good. he was a natural actor. >> jimmy: is he a good actor? >> oh my god, great improviser, so funny and nice, his like -- i was going to say his cast, but it's the people that work for him, not his cast. [ laughter ] his cast. >> jimmy: his cast is the best. he has the best variety show cast. [ laughter ] a cast of humans -- >> yeah, he was so great. he was like a doll. >> jimmy: yeah, he was good. right? >> yeah. >> jimmy: everyone is going nuts talking about
joe biden was on. >> joe biden, that's right. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he was awesome. >> go joe biden! >> jimmy: what's that. don't read my note. okay, you can see it. >> i love joe biden. yes, we were in d.c. shooting and we were so lucky to get the vice president and it was before the election so we were really hoping that they won. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that would have been awkward, yeah. >> it would be a little bit more of a sadder -- sadder scene if...
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joe biden met with fellow democrats and briefed them on where they were as far as the compromise. legislation was then drawn up and the senate met arounded 2 -- did around the 2:00 hour and cast the votes and that's where we are today. now, we are not out of the woods yet because the house still need to vote on this measure. and they will not return to capitol hill until noon so we don't know how the story ends just quite as yet charley. >> renee as we understand yesterday presidentth president addressed the nation at 1:30 and this was on new year's eve he was surrounded by a few supporters. he came out for about 15 minutes and made some remarks. this was a direct message was it not to members of congress saying get a deal done. >> reporter: it was. and we saw backlash just moments after the president came out and spoke. there were some senators who felt as if that was not the right time for the president to do that almost bullying them into getting this all done senator john mccain not happy with the president's words as well one senator tweeting out that if the president thinks
joe biden met with fellow democrats and briefed them on where they were as far as the compromise. legislation was then drawn up and the senate met arounded 2 -- did around the 2:00 hour and cast the votes and that's where we are today. now, we are not out of the woods yet because the house still need to vote on this measure. and they will not return to capitol hill until noon so we don't know how the story ends just quite as yet charley. >> renee as we understand yesterday presidentth...
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knew how to do it calling in vice president biden. obviously they were able to kind of talk turkey in a way that got things done. i think really elevates his prestige even more. harry reid, again certainly in a position to obstruct something. he didn't. so could he have been more aggressive? perhaps so. i think this is kind of the outcome a lot of members of the senate, house, democrat and republican foresaw. i don't give any bad notes to harry reid on this. heather: okay. basically because he went quiet and stepping into his place and appeared to be vice president joe biden. >> biden is clear winner even eclipsing the president who yesterday almost had what democratic strategists call a leon lett moment. the dallas cowboy who spiked football before he got into the end zone. when the president had obnoxious pep rally before the agreement was reached. joe biden stepped in. he spent many decades in the chamber. he has personal relationship with mitch mcconnell. depends how you view the deal. if you think mcconnell did the right thing he
knew how to do it calling in vice president biden. obviously they were able to kind of talk turkey in a way that got things done. i think really elevates his prestige even more. harry reid, again certainly in a position to obstruct something. he didn't. so could he have been more aggressive? perhaps so. i think this is kind of the outcome a lot of members of the senate, house, democrat and republican foresaw. i don't give any bad notes to harry reid on this. heather: okay. basically because he...
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the vice president, joe biden, spent a lot of time with house democrats today. that was a very persuasive presentation, house democratic officials tell me. there are lots of votes on the democratic side. the question is can republicans provide enough on their side to get this deal done. the white house tonight is a bit hopeful. >> mason: major, is this an effort by vice president joe biden or is the president himself getting involved in making calls? >> the president is not making calls white house officials tell me-- for a practical reason. he doesn't have good relationship with house republicans and the white house decided it would do more harm than good. the vice president has an excellent relationship with the house democrats and the white house is basically letting house republicans work this out for themselves and they hope they will sometime later this evening. >> mason: we hope so, too, major garrett at the white house, thanks, major. the new year brought in new laws around the country. at midnight, maryland became the ninth state to allow marriage. in c
the vice president, joe biden, spent a lot of time with house democrats today. that was a very persuasive presentation, house democratic officials tell me. there are lots of votes on the democratic side. the question is can republicans provide enough on their side to get this deal done. the white house tonight is a bit hopeful. >> mason: major, is this an effort by vice president joe biden or is the president himself getting involved in making calls? >> the president is not making...
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mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because they just won the house in a big way. whether or not these two men are actually going to be the ones to strike a deal, we're not sure, but we are told, our ted barrett and jessica yellin and i are told by multiple sources that it does seem that at this point, at this late hour, the talks are primarily centered around and between these two men, between mitch mcconnell, t
mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts...
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, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide and magically had a deal and some senior aides who say joe biden might be the key to unsticking this, afternoon biden and mcconnell worked on the debt ceiling, many years in the senate, obviously, together and that's why they have that relationship, there's some in the white house who call the vice-president the mcconnell whisperer, as if he has some sort of magic potion that bring people together. >> stuart? >> can i just ask you, ed, if there's any deal you've heard of that's bandied around here, any deal at all from either side which would cut spending
, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide...
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never received a response to a republican offer last night and is reaching out to vice president joe biden to kickstart negotiations with the white house at this point. the senator saying fail to go solved the crisis is simply not an option. >> the consequences of this are too high for american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> a dance partner. meanwhile democrats being led by senate majority leader harry reid who says he's cautiously optimistic about reaching a deal but warns there's not much more negotiating that can be done on his end. >> i don't have a counter offer to make. perhaps the day wears on, i will ble to. i will say that i think that the republican leader has shown good faith. it's just we're apart on pretty big issues. >> that was earlier. let's get the latest now because it's changing minute-by-minute.
never received a response to a republican offer last night and is reaching out to vice president joe biden to kickstart negotiations with the white house at this point. the senator saying fail to go solved the crisis is simply not an option. >> the consequences of this are too high for american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the...
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it's led by joe biden. he has already convened it twice. he has met with law enforcement officials, with mayors, and more excitingly, you've got people on the hill already announcing bills that are going to put forward on day one of the new congress. we've got senator feinstein proposing an assault weapons ban. we've got someone else with a high capacity ammunition clips. think it's maybe lautenberg, and you have the president publicly saying now that he supports those bills. this is the most momentum to date. this is the most we're going to see for a while. they have to build now or go home. >> that's the question. we go back to the question of capitol hill gridlock, and as much as people want to sort of talk about the issue and it makes everyone feel good to say they're on the right side of the issue, but can something like this get through the house of representatives? >> two dirty secrets. the first one is the white house before the election is actually going to do something on gun control if he got re-elected. second dirty secret is yo
it's led by joe biden. he has already convened it twice. he has met with law enforcement officials, with mayors, and more excitingly, you've got people on the hill already announcing bills that are going to put forward on day one of the new congress. we've got senator feinstein proposing an assault weapons ban. we've got someone else with a high capacity ammunition clips. think it's maybe lautenberg, and you have the president publicly saying now that he supports those bills. this is the most...
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he got on the debate stage with joe biden and i think biden definitely got the better of him. i think even republicans who maybe didn't see biden wiping the floor with him quite the way that i did, felt a little dispoupted. they have little respect for joe biden's intellect, they thought paul ryan would come in and wipe the floor with him. that definitely didn't happen. interestingly, paul ryan has been largely absent. i mean, really, almost completely absent and silent during the fiscal cliff negotiations. so what do you think we're going to see out of him in 2013? >> certainly he's not where he wanted to be, which is working out of the white house, but, you know, i think he has been -- you're right he hasn't been maybe very vocal in terms of making press statements but he's somebody speaker john boehner looked it, when you're in the capitol, he's in huddles with other lawmakers and they definitely still respect. the idea that his reputation and brand was hurt rubbinning as a e president, i think a lot of the blame at the end of the day will be put on mitt romney. if you talk
he got on the debate stage with joe biden and i think biden definitely got the better of him. i think even republicans who maybe didn't see biden wiping the floor with him quite the way that i did, felt a little dispoupted. they have little respect for joe biden's intellect, they thought paul ryan would come in and wipe the floor with him. that definitely didn't happen. interestingly, paul ryan has been largely absent. i mean, really, almost completely absent and silent during the fiscal cliff...